Topic ID #30324 - posted 12/7/2013 4:09 PM

Moving of monolithic stone.



excuibis


Well I was hoping to post a drawing I made but can't seem to load it, so I guess I'll just explain. First I will give credit to the inspiration of my idea to the "Walking of Easter Island Statues" but with a couple of differences. I should also add I have 10 plus years working with stone as a stone mason I fully understand how stone breaks and after years of working with various types of stone you are able to intuitively know where the weak points are. I have also worked in almost every area of construction and you'd be amazed at what a little physics and muscle can accomplish when moving heavy items. 

First and most obvious problem with walking a large multi tonne stone is of it breaking, well there is a very simple solution bracing or reinforcing the stone with a wood frame or wrapping stone with ropes or linens. I am more than sure ancients cultures understood the packaging fragile items for transport as we do now.

The other part of the problem I for saw was the flat hard surface need to lean the stone so a pivot point can be created to pull the stone forward, almost everyone has experienced this when moving a fridge in or out of place ie. cat walking. So I propose a dowel put under the stone near center will create a pivot point with out the need of continually leaning the stone. Now the problem with soft ground can simply be solved by laying planks for the dowel to rest on, which would dissipate the weight over a larger area. I should also state it does not need to be a dowel even a a long squared piece of anything would work, it just needs to provide a pivot point and reduce surface contact as to reduce friction.

Now also each side of the block dowels that are smaller than the center dowel could be place as rollers so that when or if block comes down on either side the edge could roll( or oiled planks i find more likely for many ancient cultures). This is basic physics, and logistically much easier than the classic push/pull theory that seems to remain prevalent. The amount of force needed would be far far less to move monolithic stone, so less man/animal power needed, even when traveling up an incline.

I want to also state I'm don't agree to the skid/slide theory and even use of dowels of any kind for rollers just because I think the ancient people were just as smart as us, so if you were ancient engineer and you used rollers wouldn't the wheel be easy for you to invent? 

I welcome all feedback especially from those in academia on my theory and hope one of you out there tests my hypothesis. I can email drawings I've made of the techniques I've stated here. Archaeology has been a passion of mine since childhood and I have built up an extensive amount of theories on many building techniques and purposes of ancient site across the earth. I hope you have found this interesting I know my punctuation probably isn't the best but oh well. Thanks; Ex P.S. Humans built the pyramids not Aliens lol




Post ID#20356 - replied 12/9/2013 12:06 PM



gmeier

Hey:

This is off subject but back in 1990 I worked at the Western Wyoming College CRM program in Rocksprings, Wyoming they did a project in 1987 making and moving monolith's you might get some good information from them about what your doing and what their results were.  Not sure who you would talk to about subject but someone over ther might know.  But they have a nine ton example of an Easter Island mono lith they moved made of cement behind the school near the parking lot and back door to school.  They told me at the time if I wanted to make a similar item they still had the molds but that was 20 plus years ago.

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http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMF3J4_Untitled_sculpture_2_Western_Wyoming_Community_College_Rock_Springs_WY


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