Forest Service Jobs
Post ID#14001 - replied 5/8/2009 10:44 PM
Besides that I've enjoyed working for the Forest Service (either because it's the FS or it's because I'm doing Archaeology), but if you have any specific questions you can PM me and I can answer those if you'd like. Anyway, the 70's denim green uniform pants are great! :lol:
Post ID#14080 - replied 5/26/2009 11:31 AM
Post ID#14085 - replied 5/26/2009 5:12 PM
The other benefit of working for the FS is the detail opportunities that exist in fire (I have worked on fires all over the west both as n archeologist and fire fighter). I have also done details thru the FS and to other agencys working all over the country and even in Korea.
Post ID#14358 - replied 6/24/2009 1:16 PM
My personality often clashed with the goals/methods of the Forest Service, but I always did my best to remain rational and found that the experience was wonderful and educating. I am most certainly consider Federal employment in the future.
Post ID#17756 - replied 6/9/2010 3:53 PM
I worked for the USFS for two consecutive seasons as a GS-07 Archeologist/Crew Chief. Honestly there isn't much negative that I can say about the experience. It was different from CRM in that there was no per diem, and crew members did have to pay for government housing, but it wasn't much (I can't remember exactly, but guessing maybe $185/mo?). We were treated as professionals and safety was always of the utmost concern, things which haven't always been the case with private firms. I loved working for the USFS and would jump at the opportunity to work for another federal agency.
Post ID#17757 - replied 6/10/2010 6:30 AM
Post ID#17758 - replied 6/10/2010 6:53 AM
I believe it was a few weeks before I heard anything when I applied. I just applied for a job with a different federal agency that said it could be 45 days after the applications were due before applicants could be notified. I guess it probably depends upon the announcement.
Post ID#17759 - replied 6/10/2010 11:49 AM
Do they cross train everyone to fight fires?
Post ID#17760 - replied 6/10/2010 3:18 PM
At the forest where I worked, there was an option to volunteer for fire training. Those who were interested first had to pass a pack test to show you were fit enough.
Post ID#17767 - replied 6/12/2010 11:44 AM
The hiring process can take anywhere from a couple of weeks to several months.It is not predictable. Sometimes, hiring will be canceled, due to changes in funding, quality of the applicants, or other factors. It can be frustrating (on both ends), but that's how it is, and if you really want to work for the govt, be patient, and keep applying.
Post ID#17788 - replied 6/19/2010 12:02 PM
I'm on my 3rd Forest in a year and a half. I started out in a student volunteer program, then got hired on somewhere else as a GS-5, went back to the private sector, and then went somewhere else as a GS-7.
You get to do things at a level much much sooner than you would in the private sector. This may not be true at the 5 level, but sometimes it is. Right now I'm loving being a 7. The pay is decent. I make more now than anyone else I know at my level of education and experience. I make more now than several people I know at the master's level in the private sector. I have more responsibilities now than I ever have before, doing things that I know people who've been in the private sector for a decade don't get to do. Dare I say it, for the first time since I got into this game I actually feel like a professional, and I'm getting treated like one. Unlike the private sector, where having a brain and a sense of self worth are typically bad things (from personal experience of course...).
Loneliness, a lot of times you live in the middle of nowhere in places where you'd rather not prefer to live. A lot of us are used to the sacrifices made in this line of work with regards to our personal lives. I see this more when you're working out of a remote ranger outpost than hotel hopping with a large crew. Your relationships with others can end up in ruins. I do miss the camaraderie of the private sector, but not the work. Also, the crazy people. Something about doing this type of thing for 20 years will turn people crazy. Or maybe it just attracts the crazies. My boss is definitely not sane, so my third forest and my second crazy boss. I'm not exaggerating. These people need clinical help, and possibly medication. This can be very trying to deal with, but deal with it I will.
So yeah, there's some good and bad. The work is good, so if you go in try and advance as soon as possible, after that it's all a matter of getting into the right office that's a fit for you. And to the person who asked if you get cross trained as a firefighter, you can, but it's not necessary. A lot of people just get "light duty" trained, which means you are allowed to go on a fire but not have to fire fight. Getting fire trained is good though, every district wants a fire archaeologist around.
Post ID#17790 - replied 6/21/2010 1:19 PM
Post ID#18060 - replied 8/23/2010 6:48 PM
My experience with the Forest Service was not a good one to say the least. It involved a lot of corruption, incompetence, sexual harassment, and other factors that eventually caused me to go whistle-blower, then resign after several years of severe retribution.
The entire Forest Service may not be this way, but where I served definitely was and continues to be. I originally got on as a GIS tech./Arch and after my term was up continued on in fire, traveling across the country from May to Oct each year serving as a Firefighter, Archaeologist, and Helicopter Crew Member.
I really enjoyed this, but kept seeing things things that were just plain wrong. Eventually, integrity got the better of me and as a veteran and American I could take it no more. Choosing to do the right thing over continuing a promising career.
Unfortunately, the system that was suppose to protect me, ended up just being a defense mechanism for lawsuits against the Forest. One ran by a corrupt leadership team that was taking State and Federal monies to pay their salaries with no intention of using the funds for what they were designated for.
So take this as a cautionary tale, and if you work for the Forest Service be very careful and believe little of what are told...
Post ID#18063 - replied 8/24/2010 2:27 AM
Post ID#18064 - replied 8/24/2010 7:12 AM
Not every Forest is like that, but I've worked for one that was.
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