Topic ID #5484 - posted 6/26/2009 11:35 AM

NYC - 18th century Battery



Dmack89

just testing to see if this will work to post images from other sites. Here is a pic of an 18th Century wood cribbing feature beneath Battery Park in Manhattan



Edit - Cool - glad to see this works - my first attempt. a few more of the same feature. It lies beneath a later stone wall (1750s?) and modern city streets. you can view the whole page at http://nyarchaeology.org/mainpages/news/southferryfinds.htm







DM


Post ID#14417 - replied 6/26/2009 4:45 PM



FireArch

Moderator
Damn nice wall there.

Post ID#14418 - replied 6/26/2009 5:14 PM



scottyj432

Amazing preservation!

Post ID#14465 - replied 6/30/2009 2:09 PM



Dmack89

This area was originally in New York Bay, but in the 18th century it was built out to create a larger land area/wharves and military battery for early New York. Although the area looks dry during these excavations, that is only because they were preceded by placing a protective wall on the bayside first - acting as a cofferdam to keep water out. The wood is so well preserved in large part due to the contantly moist environment since they were laid over over 250 years ago. The wall was probably the original sea wall and gun emplacment in that part of the city's fortifications.

Post ID#14466 - replied 6/30/2009 2:12 PM



scottyj432

Very, very cool.

Post ID#14473 - replied 6/30/2009 2:39 PM



FireArch

Moderator
Yup, way cool.

Land/water boundaries often have some of the neatest historical archaeology/architecture associated.

Post ID#17257 - replied 2/2/2010 1:23 AM



Jennifer Palmer

Webmaster
Thanks for posting those pics, Doug. I don't know how I missed them the first time. I would have loved a chance to see that in person.

Jennifer

Post ID#17545 - replied 3/31/2010 3:54 PM



Mnien

Ha, I and my co-workers at Dewberry were on that project for over 6 months. Where are the photos of us dodging excavators 40 feet below the surface of Lower Manhattan?!

Also, I've noticed from the photos on the site that the trend of "Archaeology In A Hardhat" persists, and grows. I mean, are there really surveys going on in the woods with people wearing hardhats? And why are

Post ID#17546 - replied 4/1/2010 4:09 AM



Jennifer Palmer

Webmaster
"are there really surveys going on in the woods with people wearing hardhats?"

Yes... at least there were when I worked for the US Forest Service.

Post ID#17549 - replied 4/1/2010 9:51 AM



Classarch

Yep, surveys in many different terrains occur with hard hats these days! You know that without the hard hat a person could die from a falling branch in the woods (very sarcastic note)! I have been required to wear one adjacent to a highway on a phase III when there was no trench, excavator or any other kind of heavy equipment. This with over a hundred degree heat, long pants and steel toe boots! That was a fun time!

I truly believe that the safety procedures and rules by OSHA and individual companies are going way too far. Everything is black or white and they never take the individual situations under consideration.

Post ID#17551 - replied 4/2/2010 6:55 AM



Dmack89


Mnien - Good question - why don't you post some.  It was truly an arduous project to work on, with lots of machinery, sometimes uncooperative construction folks (and sometimes very helpful) and less than perfect conditions.  It would be great to see images from the field techs perspective.  Unfortunately I only visited the site on an irregular basis, and then to inspect specific issues/features, so I do not have the types of images you asked about.  Please post what you have. 
DM

Post ID#17556 - replied 4/2/2010 3:09 PM



archy smartypants

I was on this project but not with Dewberry. A woman got severely hurt on this job when a some fill gave way due to all that conduit laying on it unsupported and pushed her into the stone wall. From what I recall she lost some of her front teeth, and suffered a broken arm and pelvis. I remember seeing the blood on the stone wall the next day. I didn't personally see the accident, as I was on the day shift and she was working the night shift. Hard hats and steel toed boots didn't help her one bit.

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