Hand Axe? Need help identifying
petethedog2

Post ID#16768 - replied 1/6/2010 11:47 AM
Dmack89
Of course - I am always open to learning something new if locals have seen this type of item before.
Post ID#16770 - replied 1/6/2010 4:08 PM
FireArch
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At a minimum a flake needs to have a platform and a point of percussion/pressure. Things such as dorsal scars and arrises only appear on later stage flakes (secondary, tertiary, etc.).
It would help if you could point out some of these characteristics on your tool in order to orient the item and work out what it may be. As it stands the lithic in your photos appears to be a large flake, but I'd like to see the platform, point of percussion, and any edge wear. The edge wear would help define how it may have been utilized.
Post ID#16777 - replied 1/6/2010 8:13 PM
Charlie Hatchett
Here's one:
http://bandstex.globat.com/preclovisforum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=21
Post ID#16795 - replied 1/7/2010 12:20 PM
Dmack89
Post ID#16998 - replied 1/17/2010 5:43 PM
trast
Post ID#17000 - replied 1/17/2010 6:50 PM
Charlie Hatchett
Please explain what an unintentional break looks like.
I see several hinge fractures, several step fractures and what appears to be a prepared platform.
Thanks,
Charlie
Post ID#17001 - replied 1/17/2010 8:58 PM
trast
Post ID#17002 - replied 1/17/2010 9:23 PM
Charlie Hatchett
I say this specimen was anthropogenically modified.
http://www.archaeologyfieldwork.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=17002#17002
Post ID#17009 - replied 1/18/2010 12:03 PM
scottyj432
The material looks to be a type of quartzite, something commonly found near the Yellowstone.
Was this found in an area that is irrigated, or that has irrigation nearby, or was it found in natural prairie? The reason I ask this, is that back when the large irrigation projects were being built along the Yellowstone (Huntley Project and the Lower Yellowstone Irrigation Project), the proposed lands to be irrigated were "leveled". There were literally tens and tens of thousands of acres made flat by heavy earth moving equipment, or at least the version of such that existed at the time. Also, in many areas, dirt was hauled in, often from very far away, to assist in leveling the contour of the land.
Therefore anything found in those areas is somewhat suspect (I work in SE MT, so have ran into this many times). If the artifact is real, there is no way of knowing if it came from the immediate area...it could have been hauled in with a load of dirt from 5 miles away. Things that are "borderline" as to whether they are cultural or natural, are just that, borderline. With all the earth moving, and subsequent decades of farming (plowing, discing, etc.), it could just as well have been "created" by equipment impacts. Here again, it it were in fact real, there is no way of knowing from where it came.
If it were found in natural prairie, then that is another story. However, I have found many flakes with what looks to be worked edges but were created by cattle trampling (the worked edges)...I have actually stood there and watched cows step on flakes and heard the crunch of the edges of the flakes breaking off.
A friend of mine once took some obsidian flakes he had knapped--none of them had worked edges--counted them, scattered them around a livestock water tank on his family's ranch, and came back a couple of weeks later, collected them and upon examination, found several of them now had worked edges that for all intensive purposes fit the definition of stone tools. All of those worked edges were created by cattle trampling.
Scott
Post ID#17011 - replied 1/18/2010 2:12 PM
FireArch
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Post ID#17012 - replied 1/18/2010 2:45 PM
scottyj432
Post ID#17013 - replied 1/18/2010 3:01 PM
FireArch
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Post ID#17014 - replied 1/18/2010 3:42 PM
scottyj432
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