How to check references
archaeofreak
Post ID#17342 - replied 2/15/2010 3:50 AM
Jennifer Palmer
Webmaster
Post ID#17355 - replied 2/16/2010 4:27 AM
Jennifer Palmer
Webmaster
From CNN/Careerbuilder: Should you fake your job references?
Post ID#17356 - replied 2/16/2010 12:33 PM
DesertSuperRat
I also find that it's good to focus on the positive. When a glowing reference is given, I try to listen for the specifics and not put too much weight on intangibles.
I also find that I am able to do a lot of filtering early on, based on the quality (or lack thereof) of the cover letter, resume/CV, and overall presentation. Spelling, grammar, and typos count!
Post ID#17358 - replied 2/17/2010 5:37 AM
Dmack89
As someone who has hired in the past, and been burned, I would argue against any fabrication of experience abilities. If you are found out, chances are you could be fired on the spot for lying. Plus, it does you no good if the supervisor asks you to do something that you supposedly have the experience to do, but can't - just makes you look like a fool.
Case in point - years ago I had a new worker come to my crew - I knew this person had been around for years and assumed he knew how to handle a transit and stadia rod (am I dating myself here?). When I asked to be certain, he assured me he had worked with them many times and knew just what to do. About five hours later I checked on the progress of the mapping and it became clear that he may have had lots of experience - at holding the rod - but had no real understanding of how to do the recording/mapping side. After trying to decipher the mess - I started over myself, and in about 20 minutes had covered the same area it had taken him 5 hours, and I now had a usable map. This person was great worker, and I loved having him in the pits, but needless to say, I did not ask him to run the transit again for a long time, and then only after I had worked with him to be sure he knew what to do.
As for calling references, it depends on the level of work I was looking for. The higher the level of responsibility, the more I want to know. Also, there have been cases where the work I have seen is so questionable, I have gone so far as to call the listed academic institutions to insure that a person has the degree they claim - and found on several occassions that those were faked. Of course those issues were quickly addressed on my side, and the schools then had to decide how to proceed from their end (most don't take kindly to someone committing fraud using their name - especially when their work does not reflect well).
Bottom line is - get the experience, work hard, ask good questions. Volunteer if necessary. Expect references to be checked.
Post ID#17359 - replied 2/17/2010 10:07 AM
DesertSuperRat
Post ID#17375 - replied 2/18/2010 5:43 AM
archaeofreak
Post ID#17378 - replied 2/18/2010 6:32 AM
rkeyo
Moderator
Post ID#17379 - replied 2/18/2010 9:46 AM
DesertSuperRat
Post ID#17391 - replied 2/22/2010 5:02 AM
Dmack89
The stadia was not in cubits, but the first one I worked with was made of this very unusual material - wood - with numbers and bars so worn that they occasionally needed to be remarked.
I also used to work with tools called a Brunton, a compass, and a plane table and alidade - ring any bells for anyone?
Title: USGS Topographer at Work
Description: Topographer George Stanley Druhot with a plane table and alidade. Recorder R.H. Moore is sitting against the Pierce Arrow in the background. A stadia rod is visible on the second car.
Location: Fullerton, CA, USA
Date Taken: 4/1/1932
Photographer: , U.S. Geological Survey
Usage: This image is public domain/of free use. Please refer to the USGS Copyright section for more details.
Source: Western Region Science Information and Library ServicesGeorge
Post ID#17393 - replied 2/22/2010 8:34 AM
DesertSuperRat
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